Hey Guys!I am looking to buy a new or used Desert Eagle.50 cal. I have been doing a little bit of reading online and am aware that certain DE were made in the USA and certain ones in Israel.Any thoughts on which is best and how to identify that model once I decide on which is best?Also, for the Mark XIX, I noticed that some say 'made in USA' and some say 'made in Israel.' Further, some have the two slot rail on top and some have the multi-slotted 'rippled effect looking' rail.
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Whats the difference?I am basically looking for the most reliable one as I want to shoot about 10-20 rds a week at the range and might take it hiking if I ever need to.Thanks in advance! Nope, not all are created equal. I have one in.50 and.44, Israeli.
IMO, the Israelis are built a little better, and are more consistent. It seems that every American made model I handle has a different trigger pull to it, but the Israelis have the nice two stage target trigger they advertise.It used to be, that the big difference was the Americans had rubber hogue grips, where one Israeli had hard plastic, and the Israeli safety hung down lower so it could be deactivated with one hand. The finish is also slightly different too. The American ones have a deep satin black finish, where my Israeli is like a grey colored blue, almost like a parkerized finish.Either function and operate just fine, but IMO the Israelis are better all the way around as far as built quality and fit/ finish.The older models had the two slot, where the new ones all have the picatiny. Nope, not all are created equal. I have one in.50 and.44, Israeli. IMO, the Israelis are built a little better, and are more consistent.
It seems that every American made model I handle has a different trigger pull to it, but the Israelis have the nice two stage target trigger they advertise.It used to be, that the big difference was the Americans had rubber hogue grips, where one Israeli had hard plastic, and the Israeli safety hung down lower so it could be deactivated with one hand. The finish is also slightly different too.
The American ones have a deep satin black finish, where my Israeli is like a grey colored blue, almost like a parkerized finish.Either function and operate just fine, but IMO the Israelis are better all the way around as far as built quality and fit/ finish.The older models had the two slot, where the new ones all have the picatiny.Thanks for the info! Hold old are the two slot models?The new Mark XIX is produced in Israel AND USA, correct?Know anyone selling?Also, whats the difference between nickel, matt chrome and brushed chrom and polished chrome? So polished is even shinier than the two pictures you posted?Is brushed chrome durable?The brushed chrome is very durable. The polished is too, but it shows scratches much more because its a mirror finish. The first pic I posted was the brushed, the second is the polished. The brushed looks just like stainless.What did you want this gun for?
Just a novelty? Mine is actually a working gun (my bear pistol) so I went for the blued.
If you want it to be a working gun, I would go with either the brushed chrome, blued, or one of their cerakote finishes. If its just going to be a range toy, any finish will be just fine as long as you take good care of it. The brushed chrome is very durable. The polished is too, but it shows scratches much more because its a mirror finish. The first pic I posted was the brushed, the second is the polished.
The brushed looks just like stainless.What did you want this gun for? Just a novelty?
Mine is actually a working gun (my bear pistol) so I went for the blued. If you want it to be a working gun, I would go with either the brushed chrome, blued, or one of their cerakote finishes. If its just going to be a range toy, any finish will be just fine as long as you take good care of it.What are the cerakote finishes?Is it just me or does the brushed chrome look ALMOST as shiny as the polished chrome?Do you agree that nickel is not as durable as chrome?Thanks again!P.S. Do you know anyone selling? What are the cerakote finishes?Is it just me or does the brushed chrome look ALMOST as shiny as the polished chrome?Do you agree that nickel is not as durable as chrome?Thanks again!P.S.
Do you know anyone selling?The pictures don't do the finishes justice. The polished chrome looks like a mirror finish bumper, there the brushed looks much more muted, like a stainless steel refrigerator or a machined face stainless steel slide.Nickel, as stated before, is just a coating. Kind of like a paint, but metal and adhered with electrolysis.
The chrome is an actual part of the metal. The chromium chemically bonds with the outer layer of steel and becomes one with it. It most certainly can be peeled and flaked off if abused though. Nickel finishing became largely obsolete in many industries once chrome was mastered. The only real reason why it's used today is for its yellow color. That's the other thing.
When you say very early.50 cal, what do you mean? Which model number or mark is it?The ones with two slots or no slots are the older models. The new ones all come with the full picatinny rail. Those new American made models aren't as well built as the older ones, especially the Israeli.Keep in mind also, these things aren't 1911's.
Many of the parts are cast instead of machined, so casting lines are still visible on some parts, and the fit isn't the tightest. The better the castings and the better the machining the better the final fit. The Israelis tend to do a better job of that than their American counterparts. If these things were built like Ed Browns instead of like Kimbers, they would be $4000 pistols. The ones with two slots or no slots are the older models.
The new ones all come with the full picatinny rail. Those new American made models aren't as well built as the older ones, especially the Israeli.Keep in mind also, these things aren't 1911's. Many of the parts are cast instead of machined, so casting lines are still visible on some parts, and the fit isn't the tightest. The better the castings and the better the machining the better the final fit. The Israelis tend to do a better job of that than their American counterparts.
If these things were built like Ed Browns instead of like Kimbers, they would be $4000 pistols.So correct me if I am wrong: there is no such thing as an Israeli made.50 cal de with a picatinny rail?Also, are any of the mark xix models made in Israel?Thanks for all the info!!! How much will it cost to convert a 44 mag mark vii to a.50 cal. Is it worth it? Is it advisable? I found a.44 mag for 550.That is an outrageous deal if the pistol is in good shape. To convert it, all you will need is a new barrel and a new magazine, no new bolt required like with the.357 since the.50 and.44 share the same rim. The barrel will cost you $450, and the magazine $50.
Don't buy anything other than magnum research parts for it.It literally takes me 3 seconds to convert mine back and forth. Stupid simple. Shooting it in.44 is more like shooting a.45 or.40, minimal recoil. Much cheaper to shoot too, and unlike.50,.44 is very easy to come.
Just don't ever shoot solid lead.44 through it. It will foul the gas port. That is an outrageous deal if the pistol is in good shape. To convert it, all you will need is a new barrel and a new magazine, no new bolt required like with the.357 since the.50 and.44 share the same rim.
The barrel will cost you $450, and the magazine $50. Don't buy anything other than magnum research parts for it.It literally takes me 3 seconds to convert mine back and forth. Stupid simple.Interesting. Lets check my logic here:Several year old.44 mag mark vii: $550.50 cal barrel: $450.50 cal mag: $50When all is said and done I will have a pieced together mark vii.50 cal (so to speak) Israeli made desert eagle.I can get a new black mark xix.50 cal Israeli desert eagle for around $1250.Granted, with the first option I have two barrels but still it's pretty close in price.Further a used black mark xix.50 cal is probably around 1000-1000.Is it that much of a steal? Am I losing anything with this customized.44 to.50 setup?Lastly, what's that.44 mag worth?
Can I use it to trade up to a.50 cal? I know the guy had it DLCed recently. Does that lower the value?Thanks again! Lets check my logic here:Several year old.44 mag mark vii: $550.50 cal barrel: $450.50 cal mag: $50When all is said and done I will have a pieced together mark vii.50 cal (so to speak) Israeli made desert eagle.I can get a new black mark xix.50 cal Israeli desert eagle for around $1250.Granted, with the first option I have two barrels but still it's pretty close in price.Further a used black mark xix.50 cal is probably around 1000-1000.Is it that much of a steal?
Am I losing anything with this customized.44 to.50 setup?Lastly, what's that.44 mag worth? Can I use it to trade up to a.50 cal? I know the guy had it DLCed recently.
Does that lower the value?Thanks again!The.44,s are worth less than the.50, mainly because the typical person who buys the desert eagle wants it for the.50, and is using it as a novelty. Supply vs demand. Aside from the barrel, there is no difference between them. The.44,s are worth less than the.50, mainly because the typical person who buys the desert eagle wants it for the.50, and is using it as a novelty. Supply vs demand. Aside from the barrel, there is no difference between them.What about the other factors I mentioned:The.44 was recently diamondcoted.The savings isn't so muh when I pay for the barrel and magI can get new Israeli black mark xix for $1285By the way, is it true that the Israeli mark xix only come in black?Lastly, anyone have a.50 ae that is willing to meet up? I will pay for ammo and range time.
I live in Southfield.Thanks! What about the other factors I mentioned:The.44 was recently diamondcoted.The savings isn't so muh when I pay for the barrel and magI can get new Israeli black mark xix for $1285By the way, is it true that the Israeli mark xix only come in black?Lastly, anyone have a.50 ae that is willing to meet up? I will pay for ammo and range time. I live in Southfield.Thanks!Any change in the finish is going to drop the value, simply because its not a factory finish. But 550 for a desert eagle is still fantastic, and you're getting 2 barrels for $1000.I am not sure about the finish options on the Israelis.You can shoot mine, as long as I can find time to get away from work. I work 7/ 10's every week, with only the occasional day off from cancelled appointments.
I would be happy to let you try mine out. Just pay for ammo ($$$$) and range time. What do you guys make of this:'You can send in your frame and have a 50AE Mark XIX fit to it. It does needto be fit at the factory though. This is due to manufacturing tolerancedifference from the older frames to newer ones. Cost for the conversion isapprox 1100.00 in black/blued finish. That cost included the parts, laborand shipping of the gun back to you.
Please visitwww.magnumresearch.com/faq.asp#q1 for information on how to send in yourgun for service.Sincerely,John MotschenbacherMRI Customer ServiceFrom: Dan Lewkowicz To: [email protected],Date: 03:30 PMSubject: DE Mark VII 44 mag to.50 cal conversionTo Whom It May Concern:I am going to purchase a 44 mag Mark VII Desert Eagle. I wanted to know ifthere is a conversion kit to the.50ae Desert Eagle? Is it advisable?What does it cost?Thanks!Dan.
Can anyone enlighten me as to what a fair/average current price would be for the following:1.) used new condition mark xix.50 cal old two slot style rail polished nickel finish? Israeli made.2.) used new condition mark xix.50 cal old two slot style rail polished briahed chrome finish? Israeli made.3.) used new condition mark xix.50 cal new pincatiny style rail matte black finish? Israeli made.Also, anyone know if they make picatinny style rail mark xix ISRAELI.50 cal versions in any finish OTHER than matte black?Thanks!
If you are finding one that cheap would make sure that it is one of the mark XIX pistols if it isnt then the barrels will NOT interchage. It was only the mark XIX series and beyond that alowed barrel interchagability.
I know this because i bought one a few years back for 600 and i was very dissapointed to find out that i could not interchange the barrels. I had to sell it and buy a mark XIX.if the barrel has a top rail that is very skinny then it is an old version of the pistol. The mark XIX will have the 2 slot pickatiny rail on it where the older verion has no slots and it is much skinnier then the picatinny and no actuall accessories will work on it.
Mine had a scope but it was mounted on a addapter for the skinnier one that converted it to a pickitiny rail.just make sure it is a mark XIXfrom wikipedia:Variantsedit Mark I and VIIThe Mark I, which is no longer produced, was offered with a steel, stainless steel or aluminum alloy frame and differs primarily in the size and shape of the safety levers and slide catch.4 The Mark VII includes an adjustable trigger (retrofittable to Mark I pistols). The Mark I and VII are both available in.357 Magnum and.44 Magnum; the Mark VII has been chambered for.41 Magnum. The barrels had a 3/8' dovetail, to which an accessory mount could be attached. Later Mark VII models were offered in.50 Action Express with a 7/8' Weaver-pattern rail on the barrel; the.50 Mark VII would later become the Mark XIX platform. Barrel lengths were 6, 10 and 14 inches4 for.357 Magnum and.44 Magnum, but only 6 or 10 inches for.41 Magnum.edit Mark XIXMark XIX Desert Eagle in.50 Action Express with upgraded finger groove gripMark XIX Desert Eagle pistol beside a box of Speer 325 Grain.50 AE ammunitionThe most recent model, the Mark XIX, is available in.357 Magnum,.44 Magnum, and.50 Action Express (or.50 AE). This model comes in a variety of different finishes, such as brushed chrome or titanium gold. Magnum Research offered this model in.440 Cor-bon caliber, a.50 AE derived case.
Mark XIX barrels are available in 6-inch and 10-inch lengths only.4 Both the.357 and.44 Magnum XIX version have exterior barrel fluting, whereas the.50 AE versions do not.The DE44CA (Desert Eagle.44 Magnum California) is the only XIX that is approved for dealer sales to the public in the State of California: it differs from standard XIXs in that it has a firing-pin block incorporated in its design.8Current-model Mark XIX Desert Eagles now have a new-style Picatinny rail along the top of the barrel, as opposed to the dove-tail style rail on previous models. Magnum Research also now offers a proprietary muzzle brake for both the.50 AE and.44 Magnum versions to help reduce recoil.
What do you guys make of this:'You can send in your frame and have a 50AE Mark XIX fit to it. It does needto be fit at the factory though. This is due to manufacturing tolerancedifference from the older frames to newer ones. Cost for the conversion isapprox 1100.00 in black/blued finish. That cost included the parts, laborand shipping of the gun back to you.
Please visitwww.magnumresearch.com/faq.asp#q1 for information on how to send in yourgun for service.Sincerely,John MotschenbacherMRI Customer ServiceFrom: Dan Lewkowicz To: [email protected],Date: 03:30 PMSubject: DE Mark VII 44 mag to.50 cal conversionTo Whom It May Concern:I am going to purchase a 44 mag Mark VII Desert Eagle. I wanted to know ifthere is a conversion kit to the.50ae Desert Eagle? Is it advisable?What does it cost?Thanks!Danthis pistol frame will not accept a XIX slide. See above postit might take a 50ae VII slide but i am not sure. Good luck finding one of those anyway'You can send in your frame and have a 50AE Mark XIX fit to it. It does needto be fit at the factory though.
This is due to manufacturing tolerancedifference from the older frames to newer ones. Cost for the conversion isapprox 1100.00 in black/blued finish.
That cost included the parts, laborand shipping of the gun back to you.' This makes sense since they are not interchangable in the old frames. They would make you a new one that would fit at the factory but it will cost you the same amount as a new gun almost.i would pass or be happy with a DE that is stricly a 44 mag for a great price. I couldnt do it though the whole point is the big 50. Is there any other difference between the multislotted picatinny rail mark xix and the dovetail double slot picatinny mark xix models other than that feature?Are you sure you mean mark 12 and not mark 7? I haven't heard of a mark 12.Any thoughts on the question I posed about other finishes available of the mark xix Israeli version with the ridged picatinny?Thanks!if you are finding one that cheap would make sure that it is one of the mark XIX pistols if it isnt then the barrels will NOT interchage. It was only the mark XIX series and beyond that alowed barrel interchagability.
I know this because i bought one a few years back for 600 and i was very dissapointed to find out that i could not interchange the barrels. I had to sell it and buy a mark XIX.if the barrel has a top rail that is very skinny then it is an old version of the pistol. The mark XIX will have the 2 slot pickatiny rail on it where the older verion has no slots and it is much skinnier then the picatinny and no actuall accessories will work on it. Mine had a scope but it was mounted on a addapter for the skinnier one that converted it to a pickitiny rail.just make sure it is a mark XIXfrom wikipedia:Variantsedit Mark I and VIIThe Mark I, which is no longer produced, was offered with a steel, stainless steel or aluminum alloy frame and differs primarily in the size and shape of the safety levers and slide catch.4 The Mark VII includes an adjustable trigger (retrofittable to Mark I pistols). The Mark I and VII are both available in.357 Magnum and.44 Magnum; the Mark VII has been chambered for.41 Magnum.
The barrels had a 3/8' dovetail, to which an accessory mount could be attached. Later Mark VII models were offered in.50 Action Express with a 7/8' Weaver-pattern rail on the barrel; the.50 Mark VII would later become the Mark XIX platform. Barrel lengths were 6, 10 and 14 inches4 for.357 Magnum and.44 Magnum, but only 6 or 10 inches for.41 Magnum.edit Mark XIXMark XIX Desert Eagle in.50 Action Express with upgraded finger groove gripMark XIX Desert Eagle pistol beside a box of Speer 325 Grain.50 AE ammunitionThe most recent model, the Mark XIX, is available in.357 Magnum,.44 Magnum, and.50 Action Express (or.50 AE).
This model comes in a variety of different finishes, such as brushed chrome or titanium gold. Magnum Research offered this model in.440 Cor-bon caliber, a.50 AE derived case.
Mark XIX barrels are available in 6-inch and 10-inch lengths only.4 Both the.357 and.44 Magnum XIX version have exterior barrel fluting, whereas the.50 AE versions do not.The DE44CA (Desert Eagle.44 Magnum California) is the only XIX that is approved for dealer sales to the public in the State of California: it differs from standard XIXs in that it has a firing-pin block incorporated in its design.8Current-model Mark XIX Desert Eagles now have a new-style Picatinny rail along the top of the barrel, as opposed to the dove-tail style rail on previous models. Magnum Research also now offers a proprietary muzzle brake for both the.50 AE and.44 Magnum versions to help reduce recoil.
That's the other thing. When you say very early.50 cal, what do you mean? Which model number or mark is it?I have a Mark VII.50AE, which technically is a Mark XIX. The Mark XIX's were introduced with the.50AE, so all factory.50AE's are XIX's, but when first produced were labeled VII.TheMark VII Desert Eagle.50AE PistolThere is no differences, same as Mark XIX. What happen was when we first produced the.50AE pistols we called them the Mark VII series, butas we changed the.357 and.44 to share the same slide assembly as the.50AE we decided to call this series the Mark XIX.
So then, according to that, a 44 mark vii would NOT have the same slide assembly as a 44 mark xix and there fore NOT Be compatible with a.50 ae mark xix barrel. There's a conversion kit.TheMark VII Desert Eagle.44 PistolBarrel, the six, ten and fourteen-inch all have a 3/8” dovetail on top.Slide Assembly, the slide is physically smaller in size lower to accommodate the barrels with the 3/8” dovetail.Frame Assembly, same as Mark XIX configuration, with two-stage trigger, and plastic grips.Appointments, same as Mark XIX configuration, safety levers are hook shaped; slide release lever has three steps for ease of operation.The Mark VII Desert Eagle.44 Magnum pistols are convertible to XIX. The conversion kit (part #CONV.) consists of a complete slide assembly,barrel, gas piston, recoil spring assembly, magazine and grips.
The.50 Caliber Desert EagleThe.50 Caliber Desert EagleByAlthough an American idea, the 'Desert Eagle' was developedin Israel by the IMI (Israel Military Industries) in the early1980s.
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